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Olga Sviblova, Aidan Salakhova And Dasha Veledeeva On The Case Of Yulia Tsvetkova
Olga Sviblova, Aidan Salakhova And Dasha Veledeeva On The Case Of Yulia Tsvetkova

Video: Olga Sviblova, Aidan Salakhova And Dasha Veledeeva On The Case Of Yulia Tsvetkova

Video: Olga Sviblova, Aidan Salakhova And Dasha Veledeeva On The Case Of Yulia Tsvetkova
Video: О деле Юлии Цветковой и ханжестве | Ольга Свиблова, Айдан Салахова и Даша Веледеева 2024, March
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Olga Sviblova: First of all, you need to understand a very simple thing: you don't need to hang something that you don't like in your bedroom. Because culture and art cannot be imposed. Unlike education and knowledge that the Earth revolves around the Sun, and not vice versa.

Aidan Salakhova: In general, it seems to me that especially in our country, women have accumulated a huge amount of scraps of different attitudes that have been given to them since childhood. Some - from mothers, others - from grandmothers and so on. In their heads, it all turned into real chaos. Plus, each of them lives today in their own corridor of information. That is, if you really do not like vagina, on the Internet you will come across articles and videos all the time about that vagina is terrible. People cannot leave this corridor, they lack curiosity and do not want to analyze. It is generally difficult for a person to listen to one point of view, then a second, then a third, and combine them into a more or less objective picture.

Olga Sviblova: Of course, as we read newspapers before. For example, in Paris there is a right-hand Le Figaro and a left-hand Libération. An intelligent person reads both and tries to form an opinion. For example, I watch 12-15 Russian and foreign information channels every day. And I compare. But today people from the very childhood are not taught to analyze, but are taught at school to choose the right option from the three proposed. It can be found on the net with one click. Wikipedia is a great invention, but if everything is reduced to it, then why study at all? So you can completely kill the analytical principle in people and become rams, to which we, frankly, are very close.

Aidan Salakhova: Even in your post, many simply did not read that the painting was by Courbet. That is, people are not ready to read five sentences. A real digital moron, when a person just looks at the screen and scrolls the tape.

Olga Sviblova: Is quick information useful? Yes! But it does not fit into a holistic understanding. As a result, people do not know how to communicate, exchange opinions. And culture is such a thing in which one should not interfere, just as one should not interfere with science or medicine. Because we know that any self-medication brings terrible harm.

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Dasha Veledeeva: And yet why were there so many negative comments from women?

Olga Sviblova: Today many women are trying to prove that they have always been sexually exploited. But in childhood, all of us girls have always tried to show the boys that we are not worse. That we can ride a bike faster, carrying backpacks is harder. We also flirt. Well, who's going to show me a 5-year-old girl who doesn't make eyes at a boy? Showing that she is a princess. For example, I remember very well my first love at 3.5 years old, his name was Mishka. So there is no doubt that we will become beautiful when we agree with ourselves to love ourselves. The Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself." And this is the hardest thing to do. Complexes are the main enemy of man; notorious people are dangerous both for themselves and for those around them.

Aidan Salakhova: Women are generally very contradictory creatures. Initially, her upbringing completely denied her sexuality and the right to enjoy sex. Accordingly, 98% of women in our country suppress their sexual desire and try not to realize it. Boys, on the contrary, are told that if you have sexual desire and a lot of girls, well done, then you are a real man. And the girl will be called a whore. As a result, she grows up with the feeling that there is a shameful place between her legs.

Olga Sviblova: Although one cannot be prude in such a matter, a woman should manifest herself as a woman, not as a crocodile. Otherwise we will not get married. And marriage is the use of that very shameful place.

IF SHE IS CONDEMNED FOR IMAGING THE VAGINA AND THERE IS SUCH A PRECEDENT, THEN IT IS NECESSARY TO CONDEMN AND SIT ANY STUDENT OF THE SURIKOV INSTITUTE, WHICH FROM THE FIRST TO FIFTH COURSE WRITES FROM THE FIRST TO FIFTH COURSE WRITES FROM THE FIRST DISCOVERED ON THIS

Olga Sviblova: It 's funny even to discuss these drawings. Let's then close the Pushkin Museum - there are naked men and Venus all the time without pants. Probably, indeed, we need some kind of lessons in schools, explaining that a person has his own anatomy, there are organs and they need to be monitored. Otherwise, why all this torment, if you can have fun. And you need! God created us like that. And if he did not want this pleasure, then nature would have been invented in a different way. And man is part of nature. Still, the Earth needs people, not neural networks.

Aidan Salakhova: Why else am I so offended by what is happening to Yulia. If she is convicted for the image of the vagina and there is such a precedent, then any student of the Surikov Institute who, from the first to the fifth year, writes from the nude and learns from this, should be condemned and imprisoned. And any investigator will be able to convict for pornography even an artist for an album drawing, even any person who depicted a vagina or a penis in his school notebook. It's monstrous. And it is very dangerous for the whole society.

Olga Sviblova: I would say for a society that lives in the illusion of everything being available to everyone, the illusion of freedom on the “free” Internet, and so on. And this myth must be fought.

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Aidan Salakhova:Absolutely. The Internet has made available any information, including Courbet's paintings. That is, before they were known only by those who prepared, went to the museum, looked, read the artist's biography and understood what it was. Internally, they formed themselves in order to understand what kind of picture it is. Now it is seen by anyone who subscribed to the magazine's Instagram account, but culturally did not prepare for the acceptance of this work. His cultural education is still on a different level. That is, he had to rise to this information, and she suddenly falls like a stone on his head. I restrain myself all the time, because you can't blame these women. They just did not receive the correct education, do not understand culture and do not understand anything at all. Moreover, they have a "shameful place" between their legs and are ashamed of their bodies. This whole lump turned into female aggression towards women, her own vagina and rejection of her own sexuality. To be honest, it is not very clear to me how to unwind this ball.

Olga Sviblova: As a child, my child wrote in an essay based on Ostrovsky's play The Thunderstorm that all Katerina's problems stem from her illiteracy and unemployment, and Kabanikha is just an old woman who tends to grumble due to her age. He was given a three for the text, and I would have given a ten. For a deep understanding of human nature. And now Aidan also tried to show this very understanding, because it is true that one cannot be offended and swear at such comments. But this is the very New Middle Ages that comes to us through every mobile phone.

Dasha Veledeeva: How do you feel about censorship in the East and in the Arab countries?

Aidan Salakhova: I accept it, for example, in the United Arab Emirates, where the law prohibits the depiction of a naked body and all sites where it can be seen are blocked. Why? Because a society that was nomads 60 years ago is not ready to understand and accept this.

Dasha Veledeeva: Then the question is: does art require explanations?

Aidan Salakhova: No. Because before, a person specially flew to Paris or stood in line for a long time at the Tretyakov Gallery, knowing exactly what he wanted to see there. He was already at least a little, but prepared. Actually, the very desire to go to a museum already defines a person as a cultural unit.

Olga Sviblova: My world is conceptualized mainly through artwork. This art is useful. You can read Facebook all the time, or you can remember the wonderful work of the artists MishMash: these are pebbles packed in boxes, like a herbarium. And each pebble is crocheted with such a blanket of wool. And this work is called "Be softer." Let's be gentle on ourselves. And then we will be softer both to those who are near and far.

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